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ueckert

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2010-09-21 15-44-06

Just a thought....... IF there is a "them vs us" mentality on this board - my golly gosh - I just wonder what could bring that on? Apart from having every one of your posts slammed for not offering factual REAL HR type advice that is (guess some of us are only human and just OFFER our opinions, right or wrong though they may be) Seems to me the heading on this forum is Job Market - NOT HR and crooters only need offer posts to the jams here............... and until such time as sees fit to change it - I WILL post whatever I friggin WANT to (within the terms of TOU) - so suck it up
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2010-09-25 12-39-36

I miss so much when I'm away ... ... from JoFo. Of course that might be the reason I still have most of my hair.
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jayroe

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2010-09-28 7-55-37-

I think you're missing the point opalie It's not them vs. us. It's us vs. you. Ok, I may not be in the same league as hdhnterpaul,HR_Supah_Freak and MizBozMaam , but I do look up to them as role models who guide us "jams" through rough seas. Sure Paul may be seen as the Feather Ruffler and he's had me eat crow on a couple of occasions, but I don't consider it them vs. us. Perhaps you should learn to roll with the punches and accept the constructive criticism as something that has its merits.
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  • gaye

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    2010-09-30 12-49-39

    Sometimes I get the feeling that many of us are being put down. We're the lowly ones - even if we had jobs. "Most of JoFo users are..." What? Dirt? I don't care for these types of posts. You know what I hate more than control freaks? Nothing. Their f.u. psychologies creep me out. I just blow off negative peeps (I think they're nuts), negers (think they're pathetic) and idiots. I really like 99% of the peeps here. Okay, maybe 98%. LOL I'm glad you're here, Opalie. You're a pistol and say what's on your mind. Hm. Where are all the 'bots? Maybe they were laid off too?
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  • minden

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    2010-10-07 6-51-40-

    ^ i agree ^ i think some of them feel... more powerful when they try and make others feel more powerless (OMG I sound like Suze Orman)
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    tenenbaum

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    2010-10-07 9-48-04-

    I think sharing any experiences you have as it pertains to the topic is extremely valid. Your humor is welcome too. Keep posting and know that there are those who enjoy reading what you write. I think it'd be pretty dull here if only certain posters were allowed to contribute, since that is not the case, I keep coming back. Thanks buddy.
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  • mollett

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    2011-01-07 6-05-48-

    The Issue Is Not Whether Or Not You Are entitled to an opinion. This issue is really about the fact that people post bad advice based on their lack of knowledge about labor laws, etc. People suggest someone should sue when they are not even lawyers. People make suggestions as to what is 'right' and 'wrong' based on the fact they have been to court. That is a joke- having been to court does not make one qualified to give out legal advice. So you and certain others here are getting defensive. But again, the issue is not about your opinion. It is about how Supah_Freak can see when bad advice is being given out; advice that is in contradiction to the law. Supah_Freak does not counter opinions. He strives to correct misunderstandings that stem or can stem from someone not qualified giving out legal advice.
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  • sarver

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    2011-02-07 19-09-56

    there is no need for you to post to my comment I would rather read the comments of the "non-experts" and the people in the trenches than your long-winded self important outdated blather. I dare you to go one entire day without posting a single thing on this board. I bet you can't. You are addicted to this forum and have too much paper thin ego tied up in posting here. Just stop.
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  • Cloe

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    2011-02-14 2-05-24-

    Fuck Off. My opinions and suggestions have done more good here than you have seen milk in your cereal. My track record in resume redesign alone is more than you can compete with. I have many here who appreciate my posts. Your one opinion is like a grain of sand on the beach. And if you don't like my posts, then don't read them. Funny how you want to stand up for someone's 'right' to post but you don't mind telling me to bugger off. That works both ways, shit heel. Paul
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  • charmain

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    2011-02-18 8-02-40-

    your hostility just proves my point
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  • youngers

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    2011-03-08 7-56-46-

    You Have No Point. Start shit with me and I will bite your fucking head off if I see it. End of story.
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  • burmester

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    2011-03-20 7-18-50-

    ^totally^
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  • rhymes

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    2011-03-21 0-52-12-

    You Won't Like This, Opalie. Sure, it is a free world and you are 'free' to post bad advice if you want to. But sometimes it is just that, bad advice. In other words, advice that goes against what the law states is fact vs. your opinion on something. That is where Supah_Freak comes in. He can tell us what separates 'fact' from 'opinion' since he is pretty current on labor laws, etc. So when someone posts something about 'discrimination' and suggests the person has a 'case', they are often speaking from a position of ignorance since they do really know what, according to the law, constitutes discrimination or whatever the issue is. The problem with giving ill informed advice is that it risks causing someone to take or endeavor to take action that will go nowhere. So when Supah_Freak corrects you, this is a good thing since you then had the opportunity to learn. Instead of posting or suggesting a person taking action based on your false impression of what the law says about whatever was posted. Frankly, it is too bad you and others simply don't know better than to make suggestions when you know you are not attorneys and ought to realize when someone needs to take their question to a trained attorney in labor law (or whatever the relative specialty is). It is just not that hard to refrain from posting and to instead suggest that person contact an attorney for clarification. What you and others suffer with is the 'need' to post even if you are not a reliable source for resolution. If more of you all would make your assessments and then caution the person they need to confirm your post with someone trained, then Supah would have less reason to point out to you and others how much it distresses him seeing you giving out bad advice.
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  • sister

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    2011-03-23 17-07-57

    Opalie....II I don't even post my opinion over most of these issues since first, I am not current because my recruits do not have these recurring issues as we see them here and second, it is too easy for Supah to make his post and then we will hear what the true skinny is. Instead, someone who wants to hear things a certain way thanks you and then is possibly confused when Supah comes along and corrects you. That person then wonders 'who is right' when really now, Supah is the only person who posts here regularly who is truly qualified to respond to certain posts here. So keep giving out bad advice if you are unable to stop yourself from giving a 'qualified opinion' but stop acting all flustered when Supah corrects you. He is, after all, and as I keep saying, pretty much the only person who regularly comes here who is accurate when labor issues or similar are discussed here. Since you have all the rest of the world to post about, why don't you allow Supah to do his "job" and you just keep to what you either 'know' or for which an opinion can't hurt anyone. The bunch of you in this thread are being very immature about this.
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  • basista

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    2011-03-24 16-04-17

    And By the Way, Some of U Do This 4 Me. There are many times when someone posts something and people will say they should 'wait' for HHP to show up so I can give a qualified response. So, I am suggesting there are times when perhaps it might be best for the sake of the poster if we let Supah post a reply instead of someone supplying what they think is a solution but perhaps is not. Again, largely because amongst all of us here, Supah really is the only one qualified to reply to some posts having to do with labor laws, etc. Paul
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  • plair

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    2011-04-05 12-29-29

    Are you her father, now? WTF!
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    kiang-sh

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    2011-04-14 4-50-55-

    and if YOU had done me the courtesy of actually reading MY posts on the subject you would see that NOWHERE did I tell SF to even go see an attorney let alone start looking to sue - ALl I did was SUGGEST that it MAY be discrimination if he was the ONLY one being denied But no, the jumped up EXPERTS had to jump on ME for evern daring to SUGGEST what it MAY be............... I guess I also keep forgetting that I am now in the USA the land of the free and the brave - where ALL rights must be in black and white - and NONE are just implied pffffffffffft
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    2011-06-14 4-01-16-

    anyway - I really AM done with this now I refuse to respond to posts that attempt to thwart MY expressing MY opinion, whether you agree with my "advice" or not is inconsequential to me.
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  • heinig

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    2011-06-21 0-19-52-

    I agree with you that everyone has a right to an opinion, and to challenge any opinion posted and all that. Allot of peopl do come here to blow off steam. Yes, there are good peeps here, I think overall that you are one of them. When I step in between you and Supah, I do so because I think you are both good people and I do not want to see either of you caught up in needless BS. Yes, there is more than plenty of blame to go around for all the crap going on out there, but the fact of the matter is that we actually have to figure out how we are going to fix it before it gets any worse. I truly do wish you well and hope you land on your feet soon, which is why I would rather see you putting your energy in to something more usefull and productive than fighting with Supah. Soon you will be posting good news of your own here, just hang in there. I know it's tough, but you can do it.
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  • fechter

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    2011-07-02 5-25-49-

    Ice go back to your 17:08 post and read under it Give up on trying to get a peaceful resolution. Some people are just nasty. I'm listening to Christmas music, prepared my thank you letter, and after reading your 17:08 post, I may have to go out dancing tomorrow night.
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    ismail

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    2011-08-27 0-25-50-

    I saw it, and replied. I'm glad I could cheer somebody up today.
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  • walstad

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    2011-09-25 5-20-57-

    Ice look again
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    ocain

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    2011-09-25 21-14-45

    I agree, GF and a couple of the regulars here... enjoy bashing others' posts that they dont agree with. I think a couple of them have greater egos than they do critical thinking/thinking outside the box skills and are more obsolete then they think their are.
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    forgey

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    2011-09-29 11-41-55

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  • bonine

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    2011-10-04 12-50-20

    Ave Maria and your job search Hiya Sea. I think I saw a recent post by you...did you have an interview or something? If not, how's the job search coming along? I've had some recent nibbles - more than I've had in about a year! No kidding! How are things with you? I like Ava Maria - the classical piece by Saint Sans? Or, is that x-mas music? I know this sounds grouchy but, LOL, I really hate x-mas music! I'm not a big fan of this holiday season and I think there's subliminal messages in x-mas music telling us to shop. ...maybe I should cut back on my caffeine intake? (:0| Cheers
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  • fish

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    2011-10-06 13-08-02

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    2011-10-07 14-12-22

    LOL, LOL, Don't EVEN go there, GF! LOL!
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    2011-10-11 14-58-59

    Hi feelindrastic - Yes had a phone interview today, through level one. Probably two more to go. I will know on Tues. Seemed to go well, but I don't get excited anymore, although, being in the top 2 to 4 should be a good thing, just hard to go through rejection.
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